Butch
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Post by Butch on Oct 28, 2012 10:03:08 GMT -5
I thought about an idea last night when someone was looking for a run. How about guild story mode runs for those members that are still leveling up and unlocking dungeons. Could just make it one night a week or on certain days. Shoot, I'm already 80 but have yet to do any of my story modes ;D and I'm sure there's plenty of others that have a few left to run yet as well. I think this is a great idea! I like it because I have only done 1 dungeon but would like to do the others. Well, I've started Cm but people left in the middle  Good idea Sabre. |
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Post by Zooey on Oct 29, 2012 5:32:31 GMT -5
I'm ready for October to over so that I can play me some GW2! Busy month...
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Post by Raelin on Oct 30, 2012 21:40:54 GMT -5
I'm ready for your october to be over too Zooey. Come back to us!!!!
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Post by Zooey on Nov 2, 2012 10:00:14 GMT -5
Yay! Spent the day yesterday catching up on all the Halloween fun  All caught up! Looking forward to some coordinated guild runs! See ya all in-game! |
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Post by Vecuu on Dec 5, 2012 10:18:15 GMT -5
I've been thinking about the idea we initially had in Lucien's thread about having soft recommendations for runs. I think it's a good idea to preset a time for these, specifically to try to get as many members online as possible, but then have runs be made in a pick-up fashion. I'd like to recommend: -a day for story mode -a day for WvW -a day for general explorables -some basic Fractal Guidelines to get people thinking about FotM The idea would be to have each of these days start at ~830 or 900 PM EST, since that will facilitate our Central and Pacific members better. A tentative list of 'recommendations' would go something like: M- Story Mode T- Explorables W- WvW Th- General Dungeon (Fractals 1-5) F- General Dungeon (Fractals 1-10) Sa- Fractals (1-9001) Su - High level explorable? I don't know Again, the idea is to have these all be soft-recommendations, but at least give Guildies an idea of what they 'can' do, but to also trick them all to be online at once  |
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Post by Feisanna on Dec 5, 2012 15:18:20 GMT -5
I know what we're trying to achieve, but schedules only work for those people that can keep them. I don't play on Tuesdays or Thursdays (daughter has dance class). Over time, it would be hard for me to find an Explorable run or a get past Fractals level 2 without pugging. I've seen it happen before in other MMOs.
No matter what you do, you're going to create cliques. By setting specific nights for specific activities, I believe you actually encourage cliques to form. It's too easy to be in multiple guilds in GW2. Think about this scenario; a WvW fanatic represents the guild for Wednesday's Wvw night then represents another guild other days. Or what about a Fractals fan? Or someone farming for a specific drop? I think a "schedule" will encourage some people to play some days and not play others.
This is where you need to look to your Officers. I always judged my Officers on how SELFLESS they where. Not on how much they knew about min/maxxing or content or lore or recipes. My Officers where typically the most active members in guild chat (except for that one guy who just won't shut-up), on the forums and selflessly offering their aid in game. They were leaders not based on what they knew, but based on how they helped the guild to operate.
An Officer who only ran with other Officers, or never participated in guild chat, or never ran Story mode with noobies, didn't last long in my guild. In business, it's like taking your best Engineer and "rewarding" him with a Manager role. Doesn't usually end well. Your Officers are your Managers. They need to be people focused and operationally minded.
So to get back on topic, I believe it's better avoid schedules and encourage an active, caring Officer corp. Allow the guild to be dynamic, to ebb and flow naturally. Perhaps consider some new ranks to help people know who to ask for help; "WvW Officer", "Dungeon Officer", "Fractals Officer".
With all that said, I did used to run one scheduled event a week. It rotated across Fri, Sat and Sun. It was usually something fun or ridiculous. Naked races across zones. Cha-Cha lines through Stormwind. Fireworks displays off Booty Bay. Drunken character runs through lowbie dungeons. Hide and seek in Iron Forge. Something totally non-productive, but fun.
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Post by Vecuu on Dec 5, 2012 15:53:00 GMT -5
I appreciate the feedback, Scrim. I know exactly what you mean on all levels (you can see my giant essay on the thought of scheduled FotM runs in Lucien's thread). It's interesting how much my business classes have covered topics that can relate to managing a guild. Being a manager does not make you a leader, and vice-versa. I am not of the opinion that we, as a guild, are hurting from a lack of schedule; I'm just trying to promote more interaction. Time to mull this over some more. |
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Post by Zooey on Dec 6, 2012 14:56:31 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this and while I agree that being overly structured can be damaging, I think having a soft schedule could be good. Let's use recent nights as an example... we've had over 20+ guildies logging on with different interests and goals. We knew of one Jadite who needed Fractal 1 completed before s/he could progress further. We were planning to take that one Jadite to fractals when I asked in /g if anyone else would like to run Fractal 1 and roughly 7 guildies were interested in completing their fractal 1. Shira (officer), along with many other Jadites, who had already completed Fractal 1 were interested in helping these guildies so everyone pulled together and formed two parties and we probably could have easily pulled together three parties. We actually got to a point where we needed a space and it worked out really well because I was having so much fun I hadn't realized what time it was and I had to log or risk sleeping in I'm sure everything worked out great last night. My point being that this kind of soft scheduling could direct guildies. Not so much that we HAVE to do fractal 1 on a specific night of the week but that the option is there if someone needs direction, if that makes sense. At any rate, I'm for it as a soft schedule knowing that we can go where the wind takes us when we want it to . Cheers! |
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Post by Vecuu on Dec 6, 2012 15:14:21 GMT -5
Perhaps the solution of a soft schedule doesn't lie in setting aside time for a task, but having the officer's and more progressed guildies simply offering to help people during peak times?
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Post by Zooey on Dec 6, 2012 15:20:53 GMT -5
Agree with that completely!
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Post by Feisanna on Dec 11, 2012 14:26:16 GMT -5
Perhaps the solution of a soft schedule doesn't lie in setting aside time for a task, but having the officer's and more progressed guildies simply offering to help people during peak times? I believe that's where you'll find success: Active, motivating Officers and active motivated Senior members. We succeed or fail as a guild. We all have to remember that. It may mean running AC Story or Fractals 1 yet again, but we need to coach, mentor and train our new members. As we successfully groom them, they can help successfully groom the next wave. It's a circle of life thing. ;D |
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Post by Vecuu on Dec 11, 2012 16:21:15 GMT -5
Perhaps the solution of a soft schedule doesn't lie in setting aside time for a task, but having the officer's and more progressed guildies simply offering to help people during peak times? I believe that's where you'll find success: Active, motivating Officers and active motivated Senior members. We succeed or fail as a guild. We all have to remember that. It may mean running AC Story or Fractals 1 yet again, but we need to coach, mentor and train our new members. As we successfully groom them, they can help successfully groom the next wave. It's a circle of life thing. ;D I agree. |
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Post by Raelin on Dec 14, 2012 23:14:26 GMT -5
I agree, I particularly enjoy running dungeons with our newer members and helping people through them, especially AC. Fractals is definitely not so much my thing but shira and general tend to do runs on that a lot. When it comes down to it though, this is definitely a laid back guild. Our officers are more than happy to help however we are not a crazy "go out and be top tier in all the things" type of group so we won't necessarily have a group that gets together each night and runs through everything. Now it would be awesome if this happened, especially if our officers and senior members continue to set up groups, of course we especially encourage our members to do this as well. But it is unlikely at this point in time that we will have a set running schedule for things each night.
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Post by Darktrinity on Dec 18, 2012 0:39:13 GMT -5
Yes, I also agree that the more organized runs will probably not be happening any time soon. Although, the guild is growing somewhat quickly. Maybe in the future there will be a large enough pool of members for a separate group of casual gamers and another group of more hardcore gamers. 2-3 Officers managing each section would keep things running smoothly and prevent boredom and harassment. Each officer would run his own group with the hardcore Officers setting designated times for each Organized Run. This would lead to a leading guild with a little bit for everyone and keep stagnation from occurring. Unfortunately, I've had the horrid experience of seeing this happen to a good many guilds in the past. Of course, this is very long-term. I doubt the member base will reach this size for another year or two. Annnd: the voice of this Member Base hath spoken! Listen well...  Hope this might help a bit. PS: The octopus (the invertebrate) may be a good point of reference here. It is a great, many armed creature with each arm acting independantly, yet still part of, the brain(The Admins). And yes, I stole this idea from Petraeus. And from Rafe Sagarin. And from the octopus itself. So sue me. PPS: I REALLY need to sleep now. PPPS: Good lord have mercy on my poor damned soul! Why am I not asleep yet!?!? |
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Post by Vecuu on Dec 18, 2012 1:02:23 GMT -5
Sleep is for the weak. Go do the jumping puzzle.
Also, are you recommending that we change our mascot to an Octopus?
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Good idea Sabre.
All caught up! Looking forward to some coordinated guild runs! See ya all in-game!
